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|  Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #2 Today at 11:55am » | |
I think it's a bit rich for all the older members of the board to be calling all the fans that try and make the football a little bit more atmospheric. I think if it was up to you all we'd all be sat there, with our tefal flasks out discussing the football in a hushed tone.
Seriously, if it's that bad turn your hearing aids off.
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|  Author | Topic: I have a mistress! (Read 191 times) |
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« Result #3 Today at 11:52am » | |
At last I got to see my 'mistress'...
Yesterday afternoon we met up in Exeter for a few hours, but things weren't like the 'old times'. Where was the red worn so beautifully in those far off heady days? And why, at the climax, was it someone else who got to score?
No, I'm sorry but I've realised that 'playing away' doesn't have the appeal anymore and I shall leave the memories in the past and stay true to my one true 'golden' love.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #4 Today at 11:50am » | |
I pretty much agree with the match report offered by Capital. For an hour we looked like a team who had played three tough away games in a week with extra time thrown in having spent long periods on the coach rather than the training pitch. We looked leggy and sluggish all ove the park - I wouldn't say dis-interested (!!!), but Southend were certainly sharper to the ball than us and for long periods won all the 50/50 balls. It is great to see Wayne back, but he did not appear match fit on yesterday's evidence - we were pretty weak across the whole of the middle of the park - we can't afford to carry both he and Stevens when they both have off days.
Up front the ball just was not sticking - Benyon and Zebs control let us down and when they did get hold of the ball there were never on the same wave length. It took two great strikes for Southend to score, but where I would disagree with Capital is that I felt our defence and Bevs to a degree looked shaky from the off. Their second goal was a very decent strike, but the guy had time because Branston and Manse had taken each other out! I thought Ellis and Branston's distribution was pretty poor throughout. Nicho continues to prove himself at this level and I thought he was pretty good.
First time I have seen us play this season and in the context of our start to the season was very disapointing. However, in the context of my hopes for the season this was ok. We played badly and could have snatched a draw late on with Wroe and Gritts going close - we hit the bar twice too. We looked solid enough for me not to worry about going down - and with our forward line we have two distinct styles which we can call on. The neutrals I went with were complimentary about Gritts when he came on a a target man. It is just not happening for Kee at the moment, but hopefully that will change. Good to see Buckle accept that we were not at the races from the off today and the interview I saw him give was a pretty fair summary.
Sturrock has made some decent signings. At the start of the season I thought both us and Southend would be battling relegation - I think both sides have enough about them to be mid table. Anything above that would be a real bonus.
I presume our fitness levels are fine, but the other comment made by a neutral was that several of our players appeared to be carrying a bit of weight. However, as this person has never played ultra competitive sport, has no knowledge of the insructions given by management to players and did not disclose his baseline indicator I have dismissed this suggestion.
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|  Author | Topic: Supporters (Read 1,010 times) |
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« Result #5 Today at 11:49am » | |
The yellow days are always a good way to pack out the family stand, but I'm still wondering why we've not said that under 5's get in for free. Or do like a family ticket for £10.
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|  Author | Topic: it just gets better (Read 389 times) |
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« Result #6 Today at 11:45am » | |
The FLS showing of the club was nice too see, so many of the fans moan that we're only getting put on for 20 seconds at a time, and it was great for fans of teams that might not know about Torquay too see the players.
Not looking forward to our showing on Sky Sports, Hopefully John Salako will not be there...
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| | Author | Topic: JPT Trophy Draw: Swindon Town (Read 215 times) |
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« Result #7 Today at 11:41am » | |
Today at 12:08am, tufc01 wrote:
Would we prefer to concentrate on the league or a good run in this particular cup competition?
Or are both achievable??
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I know we reached the final of this competition (and superb that was when playing at Wembley really was a novelty), but to me it means nothing.
I can see why PB would have wanted to keep momentum going, but three away games in a row was always going to test the players.
League is the priority, FA Cup next, League Cup too.......but the JPT ranks up there with the Setanta Shield as a completely pointless competition.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #8 Today at 11:34am » | |
We were brought back down to earth at Southend yesterday, who in my opinion looked a good League 2 side. We were totally dominated in the first half, second-best for the first period of the second half, but finished the stronger of the two sides during the final fifteen minutes or so.
United started the game sluggishly and never matched Southend's passing, possession and movement. Well taken though Southend's goals were, I felt our marking was poor, especially for their second which fell to their player following a Southend corner. Benyon struggled yesterday, and to me looks out of sorts. Whether it's fatigue, not playing alongside a target man or something else, he didn't look anywhere near effective. At times during the first half he seemed to be playing much deeper than usual, perhaps in an attempt to get the ball. But he didn't get it and consequently we had no outlet except Zebs, of whom I will mention later. Apart from an Ellis miss and one or two half-attempts, there wasn't much action in the Southend penalty area for practically all of the first half.
The second half started in much the same way as the first, but the introduction of Gritton for Stevens (allowing Zebs to play on the wing) and later Kee for Benyon saw us gradually gain a foothold in the game. Gritton is never going to skin players for fun, but his introduction added some much needed muscle and guile, which was wholly lacking in the first half from Benyon. He also gave us an aerial option, allowing us to bypass the centre of midfield (where Southend had been dominant) and even the wings, where Stevens, and to a lesser extent Carlisle, had been so ineffectual in the first half. It didn't make for particularly attractive football, but neither did the first half when Danny Stevens kept running into blind alleys, and it nearly salvaged us a point.
Our goal came from what is becoming a typical Zebroski-type goal. The man looks to be in the form of his life, and his constant running and aggression is presumably why he must be Buckle’s first name on the team sheet. I'm not sure his partnership with Benyon works, although it's still early days, but his surging runs and fitness are an asset whether he his deployed on the wing or up front.
Missed chances by Wroe and Grits in the closing stages could have kept us unbeaten this season, but unfortunately it was not to be. A disappointing result, but it was encouraging for me that we were able to end a game strongly that we had started so slowly. Let's hope a week's 'rest' before Saturday and a home game can see us return to winning ways against Accrington.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #9 Today at 11:21am » | |
Not too suprised that we got beat yesterday. Watching the sky sports interview I do think that our run might have gone to certain peoples heads. Alot of travelling this week with three away games in seven days. In my opinion we should have rested a few key players on Tuesday night.
There is no reason with a clear week why we should not come back with a victory next Saturday though.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #10 Today at 10:47am » | |
Today at 10:44am, longeatongull wrote:
Today at 10:39am, chelstongull wrote:| On the wireless it seemed that Danny had a very poor game, could the switch to 4 - 4 - 2 have been made earlier or was Bucks hoping to get to HT only the one goal down? |
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The "wireless"???---what is that????
My personal feeling about Danny is he is either very hot or very cold and unfortunately yesterday it was one of the latter. So to answer your question perhaps the sub could have been used earlier because we were getting "steam-rolled". However when subs did appear they were pretty inaffective--Gritts struggled to get in the game, Kee only touched the ball a few times and O'Kane didnt have enough time
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #11 Today at 10:44am » | |
Today at 10:39am, chelstongull wrote:| On the wireless it seemed that Danny had a very poor game, could the switch to 4 - 4 - 2 have been made earlier or was Bucks hoping to get to HT only the one goal down? |
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The "wireless"???---what is that????
My personal feeling about Danny is he is either very hot or very cold and unfortunately yesterday it was one of the latter. So to answer your question perhaps the sub could have been used earlier because we were getting "steam-rolled". However when subs did appear they were pretty inaffective--Gritts struggled to get in the game, Kee only touched the ball a few times and O'Kane didnt have enough time
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #12 Today at 10:40am » | |
Yesterday at 9:04pm, jeremyb wrote:Ok, home safe and a bit tipsy after drinking precisely 50% of my 4 cans of choice due to the delayed C2C train.
Firstly, the good news. We were poor, but we showed some real fight in the last 15.
Also, I got to meet longeatongull - courtesy of his Gorbachov facial reconstruction and teddgull. Real pleasure gents and proof beyond doubt that for all the bickering, squabbling and nonsense that’s been on here lately, this forum brings more people together than it divides. I know it’s a very simplistic attitude, but we could all do with chilling out a bit.
Now the not so good news. We were awful first half. Amazingly, we managed to hit the bar through Mark Ellis, but generally we were bereft of ideas, second best in the tackle, but more importantly in my opinion, our first touch was dreadful. The wingers will be easy targets and they were both poor in the fist half – particularly Danny. I often wonder what differentiates teams at all levels and I think the common denominator is first touch and general ball control. The last game I got to see us live in was
Aldershot away towards the end of last season and in the middle of our amazing run and we were pinging the ball around for fun. From reports from friends, we’ve been doing that this year as well. Sadly, we didn’t do that today.
Into the second half and still we couldn’t get to grips with the game. Respect to Sturrock, he’d done his homework (a testament to our league position maybe, not many people bother in-depth scouting of teams who are bottom of the league) and Southend never gave us a minute to play. They were sharp, keen in the tackle and their number 6 was as good as anyone I’ve seen at this level.
And then, a lifeline. After our goal, we were a different team. Or maybe, it was Southend – finally put under some pressure – who were the different team. We almost equalised immediately and then laid some kind of siege upon their goal, culminating in an outstanding save by their keeper from Gritton’s header.
Game over – fair result on reflection.
Only 2 things left to comment on and I don’t want to end on a sour note, so I’ll save the good bit till last.
So…..our ‘fans’………
During the first half, I had the complete and utter misfortune of sitting next to our ‘hardcore’ fans. When I say ‘hardcore’ of course, I refer to the PATHETIC, SHAMEFUL, EMBARRASSING excuse for a group who are clearly mentally disturbed and harbour some twisted belief that their ‘songs’ are clever and entertaining.
I have a friend who used to be a passionate TUFC fan who no longer goes to games because he says he’s too embarrassed to be associated with, and I quote him, not me, ‘retards’. It’s difficult not to agree with him.
Now, I can almost forgive the incessant string of pathetic inane drivel that they spout throughout the match, but what I just can’t believe is the treatment of John Solako, who was obviously there, doing his job, reporting for the media. During the game there was a chorus of ‘John Solako is a c*nt’ which left me completely perpleaxed, until the end of the game when some of our ‘supporters’ walked past the TV gantry and started hurling abuse at him again. Now I thought I must have been missing something until I realized that they were singling him out because he’s predicted Torquay might struggle this season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Truly unbelievable and shameful. They should all hang your heads in shame, but I fear they do not have the mental capacity to appreciate what fuc*ing morons they are.
And as a final point on this subject, to the guy who turned roud in the second half and called them embarrassing, I salute you sir. I wish I’d backed you now and started a commotion to get the dic*heads thrown out.
Aaaaaaaaaaaah. Rant over!!!
As promised, a high to finish on.
The prolonged round of applause that the team took from us at the end was clearly not based on today’s performance – it was based on the truly astonishing run we have been on finally coming to an end and an acknowledgement of the history and pride we have created for our club.
I can’t speak for everybody, but I’ve been sending e-mails, web links and league tables to my Premirsh*t supporting friends and they have been amazingly supportive and complimentary about our run. What our boys have done over the last few months is raised our profile, and probably our expectations, but more importantly restored a real sense of pride in our team. I thank each and every one of them for that and just hope that we can prove it wasn’t a flash in the pan and we can prolong it to some level over the course of a season.
Wow, this is the longest post I’ve ever made. Fel free to be bored by it!
Ratings (based on a complicated series of algorithms, utilising Pythagoras’ theorem and taking away the first number you thought of :
Bevs – 6 – Great save in first half, no chance with either goal, slightly flapped at second half cross.
Nicho – 7 – Just a good player at this level
Ellis – 6.5 - Love him, but not his best today
Pickler – 7 – As Ellis, but extra half mark for scaring the sh1t out of the idiot cameraman (we’d have loved it if one of our cameramen had done that!)
Robbo – 6 – OK
Carlisle – 5 – First touch disappointing for such a good player – robbed too often.
Wroe – 5.5 – Couldn’t get hold of the ball today and was overrun in midfield.
Mans – 5 – See Wroe, but ever so slightly worse (I think we lost the game in midfield today)
Stevens – 3 – Don’t want to be too harsh, but he really was awful today.
Benyon – 4 - Need to tread very carefully here – I thought he was dreadful. Maybe not suited to formation, but even so……….
Zebs – 7.5 – My MOM, just shading Nicho. Works his nuts off and has genuine quality at this level Candidate for POTY this season I think.
Subs
Gritts – not sure he is the man for a top 8 finish
Billy – first look – seemed to make a genuine difference
O’Kane – no time.
Jesus – can I go to bed now? I’ve drunk my other two beers!
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Fantastic report JeremyB......it was a pleasure to meet you and spend a quick 5 minutes along with Teddgull.
You have summed the day up well and delighted you highlighted "the idots" with the obscene chanting........very very embarassing just when the lads are getting some exposure with Sky Sports News.
These are the same idiots singing "we're going to win the league" etc etc before the game........nothing more is needed to get the home fans going that they can be "giant killers"....lets save this song for April/May shall we?
My other thoughts (for what they were worth):
1/ Team was never at the races until last 20 minutes---what a shame Nicky didnt put that chance away just after we scored.
2/ I take my hat off to the Commercial Dept of SUFC-----Teddgull and I looked at the price list for admission---Adults £18, Family tickets (2 Adults and 2 children)-£20!!!  ---So Tedd and I are now "family" with no kids!!!!
3/ By the way Teddgull will have some fantastic pictures of the day---well 2 of the match and 45 of the "dancing army half time girls"
4/ Journey---Essex is a great place to visit --Lunch at Leigh on Sea and then we came back through the East End of London----what a stadium(s) is rising up in Stratford for 2012.
Sorry am rambling---have a good sunday all!!!
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #13 Today at 10:39am » | |
On the wireless it seemed that Danny had a very poor game, could the switch to 4 - 4 - 2 have been made earlier or was Bucks hoping to get to HT only the one goal down?
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #14 Today at 10:25am » | |
Today at 10:00am, chelstongull wrote:| Not as many match reports as usual, come on guys lets be 'avin' them |
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Sorry about delay Chelston.....match ratings from the Longeaton Jury: 5,5,6,7,8,4,6,5,6,5,4,8,6,6------dont want to get involved in any problems so will let you guess the names to go with the numbers!!!!
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| | Author | Topic: Week 107 Winner (Read 19 times) |
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A number of you have sent me Pm’s asking where the poster of the week votes system has gone from the forum, well the good news it has now been put back on and I’m happy to explain what happened to it.
In some of the emails Mervo sent me recently he talked about all the abuse he got owning a forum and he also talked about what he described as the lost years of his life and how now he is doing what maybe he should have been doing then, things that he really wants to be doing like painting and making music.
Anyone who is a member on a forum logs onto it and it’s a part of their life for the time they are on it, that is not the case for someone who owns a forum as I have found out and I live and breath this place 24 hours a day, in other words it has almost taken over my life.
I make no excuses for who I am and the sort of person I am and many of you have got to know me and have learned just who Dave Roach is and what he believes in.
One thing I do believe is my childhood played a big part in me making me the person I wanted to be and not be the person everyone were saying I was going to be due to the childhood from hell that I was living in. “ Poor little mite I feel so sorry for him and he will be in prison by the time he is 15, well just look how he is treated and the life he has ” those were words I heard said about me far to many times when I was a child.
There has been and will be many more young people who due to their poor childhoods who will end up in prison and blame their childhood for it, but while I was just a little tacker I was big inside and could say NO when I needed to and made my mind up very young that I was not going to take the easy route and use the excuse it was the fault of my childhood who I was, NO I knew who I wanted to be and the things I so desperately needed in life and I was going to make myself that person and make all the rest happen for me.
While I was successful very early in my life to be who I wanted to be I had to wait until I was 38 years to truly find what I needed and that was love and real security and true friendship when at last Carol came into my life. So desperate at 18 years old for a place to call home and to have a family I would belong in I rushed into a marriage with a person who had disguised so well the real evilness she had inside
The end result was at 35 years old she destroyed that family and took every single thing I owned but one person stood by my side and gave up his home and lived up in a damp and very cold converted roof space above a shop until I could start to rebuild my life again my son Anthony.
Because I’m a very open person and never afraid to talk about me life and how I feel etc I will share this with you. Just like a lady puts on her makeup before she leaves the house, I put on my smile mask and during the day be as nice as I can to everyone I meet, if I can make something feel special I will and if I can make someone laugh I’ll do that as well and if they need a shoulder to cry on I’ll offer mine. I won’t walk past anyone who may need a hand no matter who they are and I don’t care if I know them or not, if I’m there when they need someone I can’t walk past them.
Those of you who chat to me at games see a chatty friendly little man who wears his mask so well to cover up what is really going on inside of him. Deep inside I’m so very scared and so very frightened and it’s a fear I have to hid from Carol Ant and all my family and friends because they all look to me to be the strong one and the one they can come to to help them with their own fears.
It’s a hell of a burden and takes everything out of me and a very hard act to keep up but one I have to and somewhere inside I still have to find hope and believe in miracles and even magic fairies if they can help to keep my Carol alive and in my life.
I’m sorry but I don’t like the sort of people who love to cause upset to others just because they enjoy doing so, those who poke fun at others knowing it will hurt them and then once they have instead of feeling some sort of sense of shame for what they have done, hid behind such words as its not my fault others are so sensitive, well it is there fault as they had a choice and could have chosen to have been nice to someone instead of trying to hurt them.
It’s the same people who come onto forums and look who their next victim will be and sadly the victim ends up taking the bait and the forum then ends up a very unhappy place and gets damaged as a result of the crap that is being posted on it instead of what really should be being posted.
I have taken what is written below from Rags signature and it was written by MERVO
All I know is that I have a bunch of new friends with similar interest and shared football heritage.
They also have extremely high IQs, can pass Police exams blindfolded, and debate with anyone on myriad topics."
We all say our club is a small friendly family club and I would like to think it is but as our match reports from yesterdays game shows we have a few who really are tarnishing our club and ruining the pleasure of really good fans and that is such a shame.
There are also a number of people parading on forums as fans of our club who ruin and spoil the pleasures others are having using the forum to the extent they end up only as readers as they simply don’t want to be subject to the abuse that may come their way.
So onto the reason>>>> it breaks my heart to see our great community end up breaking down yet again because some who claim they only want to debate turn our forum into nothing more than a bickering horrible place that no one gets any pleasure from reading or even coming onto. This last week instead of being out driving happy in my work I have been so upset and stressed as to what the TFF has been turned into by just a few of its members.
On Friday morning very early when I read the latest instalments I was knocked as low as this forum has ever knocked me before and my thoughts were to just let those few carry on and ruin the TFF and lose all its members and when there was no one left to play with that would be the end of the TFF for good.
I disabled the voting system as I intended to just stay away from the forum and by disabling it I would not need to have to post on here what so ever. I would have asked Rob to start the match threads and timbo to put up our programme pages and then just let this place go where ever the bullies were going to take it.
When I got home from work and read the forum again I had regained enough of my strength I needed to ensure our forum does not get ruined by a few and the pleasure so many do get by being a member on the TFF does not end because I just let this forum go to rack and ruin by sitting back and doing nothing.
I closed the forum down for the night to put an end to what was going on and to give me time to think about what needed to be done, I wrote a post with a few home truths in it and appealed to someone’s better nature as the good of the TFF is and always will be very important to me as long as I do run it.
When MERVO said
I view The TFF to have carried on the spirit of dotNET
He did not just mean it was a forum trying very hard to avoid having any moderation on it, he also and more importantly meant the feeling of being a place where FRIENDS could meet and enjoy good intelligent debate. Read his archives and do you find it all breaking down as it does on here far too often? No you don’t, you will find many good debates were points of views and opinions are argued the way adult debate is carried out by normal people.
Debate is not forcing your opinions down other people’s throats, sticking labels on them if they don’t share your views or just tell them they are a racist or a bigot simply because you don’t want to consider what the other person is saying as to do so you might end up not winning your latest battle.
The TFF is not run by our club, nor is it run by any company or government organisation, it is run by someone who believes in friendship and someone who promotes goodwill and provides free of charge a place that others can get pleasure and enjoyment from using and sharing their views with fellow TUFC fans. It is not a place that will allow a few to get the sort of pleasure they want by causing upset and offence just for the hell of it as that is the way they get their kicks out of life.
If that makes this forum a bit too bland or boring for those who want or need to get their kicks out of life that way, then I offer no apologies what so ever and it is and never has been about censoring debate, only trying to ensure good fans can enter debate without the fear of being attacked and made to feel they have no worth or value on the forum and are treated with a degree of respect that they rightly should expect from their fellow fans.
It is also nothing to do with any battles of wills or anyone trying to force their ways onto others, it’s simply the TFF run by me saying this is what the TFF is all about what it believes in and how it wants to be for the members who want to use it because that’s the sort of forum this is and will always remain.
It’s not going to be to everyone’s liking and I know that, but there is so much badness and unpleasantness in the outside would and this should be a place we can escape to and be amongst friends and have some fun and not end up wishing we had never joined or logged in one night because some have failed to understand just what the SPRITE OR THE TFF really means.
Onto this week’s winner and a rare and very good match report won it hands down this week.
This weeks winner and for the third time I believe is Rags, well done Rags.
The winning post.
All of us on this site have seen poor Torquay United sides: those that don't try hard enough, don't battle, whose heads drop, shoulders droop, give up and lose games they should have won. This Torquay United side is the antithesis of that. Through the entire game yesterday, every player fought hard for the team. Every player worked hard for the team and every player remained confident that we could get the win. In my opinion, there was not a single average or poor performance from the entire side.
Sometimes we can concentrate too much on individual results: goals scored, assists, saves, clearances, tackles won etc and sometimes we miss the teamwork and running that is put in. This is not a game for individuals and the best sides are those where the team is greater than the sum of its individual players.
Yesterday I felt that Wayne Carlisle was our least effective player: he didn’t get forward enough, his crossing was weak and he was far too conservative when he did get a chance to attack their defenders. He wasn’t bad going forward, but he wasn’t great. But what epitomised his performance for me was when, in the first half, he threw himself in front of a shot to block it. This guy is almost 31 (old for a footballer), he’s just come off surgery and he is literally throwing himself in front of a shot to prevent a goal. Carlisle’s defensive work was excellent, just as his attacking work was disappointing; and that is fairly representative of the team. Any player who disappointed in one aspect of his game exceeded expectations in another.
We started off very quick out of the blocks, attacking almost constantly from the kick-off and soon went into a 2-0 lead which should have been 3-0 as Benyon was the victim of a strange offside decision; as he and the rest of our team were the victims of some strange refereeing decisions all day. Vale came back with a brilliant 30-yard screamer to take our record away and piled on the pressure for the last 10 minutes of the second half.
All first half I’d been particularly impressed by the way The Gulls played in pairs: we’re used to the link along the touchlines but it really was as if Nicho/Danny, Zebs/Benyon, Ellis/Pickler and Wroe/Manse knew exactly where each other were going to be without even looking. Wroe and Manse were also making triangles with each pair alongside them. I felt that relationship wasn’t quit as strong between Wayno and Robbo, but that’s no criticism as I’m sure it will improve when Carlisle plays more games. This ability to find each other blind extended into the second half and it was only as bodies, and consequently minds, tired that mistakes occurred: on one occasion Nicho played it into Wroe who immediately clipped it back along the touchline for Nicho’s run, which Nicho had failed to make. Angry words were said, which impressed me as proof that standards are high.
As expected, Vale came out in the second half with renewed intent, Adams having given them a rocket, and our game plan changed. We no longer attacked in numbers, but appeared content to sit back in midfield and disrupt everything Vale tried. Obviously Vale succeeded in making more chances but when they invariably turned towards the long-ball game, Pickler and Ellis were reading everything that came their way and clearing it. The Vale fans were queuing to leave with about 10 mins to go, aware they weren’t going to score and that the game was lost. We weren’t anywhere near as confident and I was nervous until about 30 seconds after the final whistle! Certainly the Marshall miss and Ellis goal-line clearance as described by NickGull was the point when I was certain they’d scored: one second the ball was heading for the net, the next it was rebounding away from the penalty area and although my eyes had clocked every moment of the process, my brain seemed unable to compute!
Apart from the usual MotM nominees already stated, and there’s no argument from me on any of them, I feel I have to single out three players for particular praise. I felt Elliot Benyon ran his socks off today and was a constant thorn in the side of the Vale defence, always hassling and pressing them to prevent them getting an incisive ball or pass away. His link-up play in the first half was impressive and as his forward effectiveness waned, he replaced it with sheer hard work. He might not have had the physical strength to challenge for many balls but that didn’t stop him trying. Not a MotM performance but for sheer hard work and effort he should get big marks. Also, Lee Mansell was simply brilliant at breaking up a lot the Vale moves in their infancy. Always darting around midfield, sticking his boot in where the ball was and generally upsetting the composure of the Vale midfield, he and Benyon were a major factor in keeping the pressure off our defence in the second half and keen students of the game will appreciate that we have players who will keep going even when things don’t appear to be going their way.
I’m not sure how to describe Eunan O’Kane. He clearly wasn’t a major contributor to the game as a whole but in the last half an hour was a constant menace. He was given a free role in midfield and invariably picked the ball up where you least expected him to but, rather than passing the ball long, he’d run at the Vale defence to tire them and drain them of their confidence. He should have scored just after he came on and maybe again at the very end of the game, but for me his running and vision were a major reason why we were able to hold out in the last 30 minutes against a very strong team who would have been desperate to win the game.
In the first half we were a very strong attacking team and in the second we were an irritatingly strong defensive team. We didn’t play the tiki-taka that was described last week, although we still tried to pass our way out of trouble throughout the game rather than hoof it, but we were hard-working and epitomised everything Arsene Wenger hates in the likes of Stoke and Blackburn. It wasn’t pretty for long periods but it was effective and nobody should mistake that for a poor performance.
We were fantastic, in the Northampton away rather than Rochdale home context.
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Not as many match reports as usual, come on guys lets be 'avin' them
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« Result #17 Today at 9:57am » | |
Yesterday at 11:17pm, Dave wrote:
I'm seriously considering carrying on watching local football for the rest of the season.
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« Result #18 Today at 9:49am » | |
Today at 8:48am, simonb wrote:Would concur - was also in the crowd and of the same opinions regarding the foul language and dim wit of some of the so called supporters - especially the language dircted to John Salako - most likely they don't have the collective IQ to develop witty banter.
Not a bad game, but as most have said - we weren't at the races in the first half. Nico was fantastic throughout though and Branston got a little hot headed on a couple of occasions - just thinking that Danny appeared a little out of sorts on the wing - wonder if he would be better deployed in the slot behind the striker(s) given his excellent touch and shooting ability - he seemed to struggle with the more defensive aspect (headers etc.) and at times did not have the better of their right back.
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Presumably it's the same morons that thought it was witty to hurl abuse at Wayne C over the last couple of years? And now seem to be targetting Danny in the last couple of home matches? About time the stewards did something.
As for the chances of a convincing win against Accy? They will be a tough nut to crack. 0-0 all over it
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Would concur - was also in the crowd and of the same opinions regarding the foul language and dim wit of some of the so called supporters - especially the language dircted to John Salako - most likely they don't have the collective IQ to develop witty banter.
Not a bad game, but as most have said - we weren't at the races in the first half. Nico was fantastic throughout though and Branston got a little hot headed on a couple of occasions - just thinking that Danny appeared a little out of sorts on the wing - wonder if he would be better deployed in the slot behind the striker(s) given his excellent touch and shooting ability - he seemed to struggle with the more defensive aspect (headers etc.) and at times did not have the better of their right back.
No disgrace in the result although important to have convincing home win next game perhaps.
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« Result #21 Today at 7:00am » | |
Today at 1:28am, dantufc wrote:I'm a regular reader, rare poster on the forum but after todays game I feel I have to say something about the mindless idiots or "loyal supporters" today.
I've never been more embarrassed by our own fans in my 20 years of following Torquay.
I was the person who turned round and told them they were embarrassing (and put up with a fair bit of abuse as a result). I was slightly disappointed to receive little back up, but I do understand it's not the easiest thing to do.
I used to go on and on to my friends about how much fun the Torquay away support are, what a great day out it is, how we're different to other clubs. After this, I'm not sure I'll invite my mates again. I'm disgusted to be associated with these people.
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You're right to be disappointed Dan. With hindsight, I could and should have backed you up.
By the way, the 1991 kit is my favourite ever!
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« Result #22 Today at 2:27am » | |
Yep a mate came with me to Hereford away last season..........we walked back to the car after the desperately bad 0-1 with our sons behind this group as they taunted ordinary Hereford fans, minding their own business....with gems such as "sheep shaggers" and "welsh scum" etc 
........he described our "ultras" as a group of 10-15 ugly, overweight, thick, inbreds with barely a brain cell between them......nail on head i reckon.
They are excruciatingly embarassing........on my rarer away trips these days, i just try and sit/stand as far away as possible.
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« Result #23 Today at 1:28am » | |
I'm a regular reader, rare poster on the forum but after todays game I feel I have to say something about the mindless idiots or "loyal supporters" today.
I've never been more embarrassed by our own fans in my 20 years of following Torquay.
I was the person who turned round and told them they were embarrassing (and put up with a fair bit of abuse as a result). I was slightly disappointed to receive little back up, but I do understand it's not the easiest thing to do.
I used to go on and on to my friends about how much fun the Torquay away support are, what a great day out it is, how we're different to other clubs. After this, I'm not sure I'll invite my mates again. I'm disgusted to be associated with these people.
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« Result #24 Today at 12:19am » | |
Firstly, thanks for a couple of mentions from people recently. I've been away scratching my head over life, forums and the universe at various points on the south coast between Cornwall, Hampshire and Essex.
Secondly, the enquiry about reserve team dates may need to be referred to a higher authority. David is clearly a Chelmsford City supporter and 1938/39 was the year the club turned pro and joined the Southern League. Furthermore, they reached the 4th round of the FA Cup beating Darlington and Southampton along the way.
All I can add - courtesy of the Southern League history - is something David will surely know, namely that our two league fixtures with Chelmsford in 1938/39 each ended in a 2-1 win for the respective home side. Torquay United reserves beating a team which reached the 4th round of the Cup? Can't be bad.
Perhaps there's a programme out there which contains a 1938/39 fixture list? And, speaking of programmes, yesterday's at Southend contained a couple of pages on that 1977/78 4-0 defeat featured by Timbo a day or so ago. It's still pretty painful all these years later, although it was a pleasure to be at Roots Hall yesterday with the same school friend as on that Friday evening thirty-three years ago. We'll do well to make it to Southend together in 2043.....
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« Result #25 Today at 12:08am » | |
A Tough draw, but worse than that it gives us a repeat of this week.
The game is sandwiched in between an Away trip to Shrewsbury (which could well be one of our toughest games of the season) and an Away trip to Crewe.
If Bucks does play a full strength team then we are asking a lot of the players again.
It begs the question of whether a run in this cup competition will have an adverse effect on our season, presuming that we believe that we are capable of at least a play off spot.
Would we prefer to concentrate on the league or a good run in this particular cup competition?
Or are both achievable??
IMO, if we are in a strong position in the league then I would rather we concentrated on that and gave the fringe players a good run out in a competitive match. As much as I would like a return trip to Wembley I am starting to get a good feeling that we can do really well in the league and that for me is our priority.
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« Result #26 Yesterday at 11:20pm » | |
Yesterday at 11:17pm, Dave wrote:
Yesterday at 11:10pm, ali wrote:| The club cannot want these people being associated with them. |
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We no longer have Steve 004 on the popside as I believe he is now a taxi driver and has given up working for the Plymouth based security company.
Maybe someone should have a word with the man who has replaced him and make him aware of the feelings many do have on the popside.
Not to sure I want to be the one who takes on the challenge as it has in the past been used on here to have a go at me. After my great last two Saturdays watching local football free from such behavour, I'm seriously considering carrying on watching local football for the rest of the season. |
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« Result #28 Yesterday at 11:10pm » | |
The club cannot want these people being associated with them.
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« Result #29 Yesterday at 11:09pm » | |
Yesterday at 11:05pm, tufc01 wrote:As disappointing as our first loss is, i believe that EVERYONE would have taken 12 points from the first 5 games.
The trouble with having the start that we have had is that it raises our own expectations.
It is easy to make excuses and the 3 away games in a week is bound to have taken its toll. However, more often than not you learn more from a defeat than a win.
For me how we react to this next Saturday will give us another indication of how our season is progressing. If we go out a beat Accrington with their stingy defence then I would start to think that todays game was a one off, a blip, and I would be hopeful that we really do have a great season in front of us.. |
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I wouldn't have taken 12 points mate!!!!!
I would have taken 9, so far so good
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« Result #30 Yesterday at 11:08pm » | |
These mindless idiots have been behaving like this for the last few seasons home and away. Can we not do something about them collectively, I like a few others have tried to tell them to shut up but it is obviously quite intimidating standing up to them and it makes them worse to be honest.
I am not necessarily saying they should be kicked out (although I would not complain) but surely somebody from the club / stewards could give them a good b*ll**king abouth their behaviour.
The club cannot these people being associated with them. 
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« Result #31 Yesterday at 11:05pm » | |
As disappointing as our first loss is, i believe that EVERYONE would have taken 12 points from the first 5 games.
The trouble with having the start that we have had is that it raises our own expectations.
It is easy to make excuses and the 3 away games in a week is bound to have taken its toll. However, more often than not you learn more from a defeat than a win.
For me how we react to this next Saturday will give us another indication of how our season is progressing. If we go out a beat Accrington with their stingy defence then I would start to think that todays game was a one off, a blip, and I would be hopeful that we really do have a great season in front of us..
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« Result #32 Yesterday at 10:45pm » | |
Yesterday at 10:31pm, pappy wrote:I`m interested in this Mark Boyce convesation Merse.
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WHY?? It's got bugg*r all to do with you.
Yesterday at 10:31pm, pappy wrote:| I wouldnt have put up with some of the negatvie stuff if I were you Dave. |
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Fortunately you're not Dave and I can't believe for one minute that even in your dreams you would be capable of running a forum, so probably best not to go down that route.
Merse & Dave are big boys. Its not the first time, nor will it be the last that they have disagreed, however they are big enough (& ugly enough  ) to work it out for themselves.
Well best you guys do because the forum is all the better for having both of you on here.
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« Result #34 Yesterday at 10:31pm » | |
I`m interested in this Mark Boyce convesation Merse. Why did you say that to Mr. Boyce when we all know that that isn`t exactly the reason.
Dave. You have been doing a fantastic job on here, running the forum; if you hadn`t then people wouldnt be able to read some of the best posts from BartonDowns, Jon. I wouldnt have been able to be part of the sponsorship team for Scott Bevan. There are so many things that have been positive for the club, for me and other Torquay fans. I wouldnt have put up with some of the negatvie stuff if I were you Dave.
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« Result #36 Yesterday at 10:06pm » | |
Thanks Dave.
Didn't post my e-mail address. It's -
chelmsfordcityhistory@googlemail.com
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Hi
I am looking for the dates of TUFC Reserves Southern League matches in the 1938-1939 season.
Many thanks.
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« Result #39 Yesterday at 9:04pm » | |
Ok, home safe and a bit tipsy after drinking precisely 50% of my 4 cans of choice due to the delayed C2C train.
Firstly, the good news. We were poor, but we showed some real fight in the last 15.
Also, I got to meet longeatongull - courtesy of his Gorbachov facial reconstruction and teddgull. Real pleasure gents and proof beyond doubt that for all the bickering, squabbling and nonsense that’s been on here lately, this forum brings more people together than it divides. I know it’s a very simplistic attitude, but we could all do with chilling out a bit.
Now the not so good news. We were awful first half. Amazingly, we managed to hit the bar through Mark Ellis, but generally we were bereft of ideas, second best in the tackle, but more importantly in my opinion, our first touch was dreadful. The wingers will be easy targets and they were both poor in the fist half – particularly Danny. I often wonder what differentiates teams at all levels and I think the common denominator is first touch and general ball control. The last game I got to see us live in was
Aldershot away towards the end of last season and in the middle of our amazing run and we were pinging the ball around for fun. From reports from friends, we’ve been doing that this year as well. Sadly, we didn’t do that today.
Into the second half and still we couldn’t get to grips with the game. Respect to Sturrock, he’d done his homework (a testament to our league position maybe, not many people bother in-depth scouting of teams who are bottom of the league) and Southend never gave us a minute to play. They were sharp, keen in the tackle and their number 6 was as good as anyone I’ve seen at this level.
And then, a lifeline. After our goal, we were a different team. Or maybe, it was Southend – finally put under some pressure – who were the different team. We almost equalised immediately and then laid some kind of siege upon their goal, culminating in an outstanding save by their keeper from Gritton’s header.
Game over – fair result on reflection.
Only 2 things left to comment on and I don’t want to end on a sour note, so I’ll save the good bit till last.
So…..our ‘fans’………
During the first half, I had the complete and utter misfortune of sitting next to our ‘hardcore’ fans. When I say ‘hardcore’ of course, I refer to the PATHETIC, SHAMEFUL, EMBARRASSING excuse for a group who are clearly mentally disturbed and harbour some twisted belief that their ‘songs’ are clever and entertaining.
I have a friend who used to be a passionate TUFC fan who no longer goes to games because he says he’s too embarrassed to be associated with, and I quote him, not me, ‘retards’. It’s difficult not to agree with him.
Now, I can almost forgive the incessant string of pathetic inane drivel that they spout throughout the match, but what I just can’t believe is the treatment of John Solako, who was obviously there, doing his job, reporting for the media. During the game there was a chorus of ‘John Solako is a c*nt’ which left me completely perpleaxed, until the end of the game when some of our ‘supporters’ walked past the TV gantry and started hurling abuse at him again. Now I thought I must have been missing something until I realized that they were singling him out because he’s predicted Torquay might struggle this season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Truly unbelievable and shameful. They should all hang your heads in shame, but I fear they do not have the mental capacity to appreciate what fuc*ing morons they are.
And as a final point on this subject, to the guy who turned roud in the second half and called them embarrassing, I salute you sir. I wish I’d backed you now and started a commotion to get the dic*heads thrown out.
Aaaaaaaaaaaah. Rant over!!!
As promised, a high to finish on.
The prolonged round of applause that the team took from us at the end was clearly not based on today’s performance – it was based on the truly astonishing run we have been on finally coming to an end and an acknowledgement of the history and pride we have created for our club.
I can’t speak for everybody, but I’ve been sending e-mails, web links and league tables to my Premirsh*t supporting friends and they have been amazingly supportive and complimentary about our run. What our boys have done over the last few months is raised our profile, and probably our expectations, but more importantly restored a real sense of pride in our team. I thank each and every one of them for that and just hope that we can prove it wasn’t a flash in the pan and we can prolong it to some level over the course of a season.
Wow, this is the longest post I’ve ever made. Fel free to be bored by it!
Ratings (based on a complicated series of algorithms, utilising Pythagoras’ theorem and taking away the first number you thought of :
Bevs – 6 – Great save in first half, no chance with either goal, slightly flapped at second half cross.
Nicho – 7 – Just a good player at this level
Ellis – 6.5 - Love him, but not his best today
Pickler – 7 – As Ellis, but extra half mark for scaring the sh1t out of the idiot cameraman (we’d have loved it if one of our cameramen had done that!)
Robbo – 6 – OK
Carlisle – 5 – First touch disappointing for such a good player – robbed too often.
Wroe – 5.5 – Couldn’t get hold of the ball today and was overrun in midfield.
Mans – 5 – See Wroe, but ever so slightly worse (I think we lost the game in midfield today)
Stevens – 3 – Don’t want to be too harsh, but he really was awful today.
Benyon – 4 - Need to tread very carefully here – I thought he was dreadful. Maybe not suited to formation, but even so……….
Zebs – 7.5 – My MOM, just shading Nicho. Works his nuts off and has genuine quality at this level Candidate for POTY this season I think.
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Gritts – not sure he is the man for a top 8 finish
Billy – first look – seemed to make a genuine difference
O’Kane – no time.
Jesus – can I go to bed now? I’ve drunk my other two beers!
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« Result #41 Yesterday at 8:01pm » | |
I’m really starting to enjoy my Saturday afternoons watching local football following the Ipplepen second team Ant is playing in, a great bunch of lads and there are a number of very good players in the side and their battling performance this afternoon earned them what I thought was a well deserved victory.
For a pitch in the South Devon league it has to be said Kingskerwell’s is a good pitch, flat with a good covering of grass and the only down side might be the fact there is no high fencing on the side where there are houses etc behind the hedge and this means a long walk out of the ground to go and try to find the ball when it goes over the hedge.
On the other side of the pitch can be found the cricket pitch and the whole area is very large and you soon forget the main busy A380 is only a stones throw away and you hardly notice any traffic noise at all. Despite all the grass there is away from the pitch itself it’s a shame some dog owners let their dogs foul the pitch and some had to be cleared off the pitch before the ref was prepared to let the game get underway.
I thought Ant had a really good game and made many intelligent passes, he always looks so natural on the ball but I’m sure he might say he is a bit disappointed he did not take at least two of the chances he had.
The Kingkerswell side was made up of a mixture of young up and coming players and a few old heads who clearly have played for the first team in the past and while they may have lacked any pace as such, knew how to defend properly at this level.
Kingkerswell started the game slightly better than Ipplepen and looked a neat passing side with out really creating to many clear cut chances, but they did take and early lead in the game. Two players from each side were battling away getting tackles in and the ball could have broken either way, but it was Kingskerswell who came away with the ball and it was played out wide to their right winger who sent in a perfect cross to the far post where their tallest player was waiting to head the ball back across and over the keeper.
Ipplepen stepped up their game and started dominating the play and created chance after chance that all went begging. They thought they had equalised after the ball was chipped toward the penalty stop for the edge of the box and was headed home. The linesman gave off side but it was a really tight call and the Ipplepen players felt he had got it wrong.
Ant then took a free kick just outside the box and he normally goes for the top right hand corner, but went for the other side and put his shot just wide of the post. His strike partner then cut into the box on the left hand side and shot across the keeper and I though it was going to go in but it just went wide of the far post.
Ant was to have three more chances before the ref blew for the end of the first half, one he had to take very quickly on the edge of the box as he was being closed down that just went wide, a second that was a power driver also from the edge of the box that got blocked on route and a third where the ball came to him with the keeper rushing out on top of him and Ant had to lob the ball up over him, he got that part right but the ball just bounced past the left hand post.
The first part of he second half the games was far more equal but without either side creating too much but both were playing some very neat passing football. Ant had a much freer role and was in the middle one minute and out on the left or right wing the next to get on the end of a pass.
It was from a break from the middle out to the left wing to get on the end of a ball played down the channel he made the equalising goal, his marker had followed him out there but Ant turned him looked up and saw his strike partner breaking into the box at pace and played and inch perfect pass to him to blast the ball past the keeper.
Then a chance at the other end saw a the ball hit the inside of the far right hand post and come back out into play and Ipplepen were lucky not to finds themselves behind again.
Ipplepens winning goal was a very strange one indeed, from an Ipplepen corner one of the Kingkerswell defenders went down injured and required treatment. After getting some he took his place back on the pitch and the ref spotted him and asked him to leave the field on the halfway line. This he did but walked very slowly and the Kingkerswell keeper was getting a bit frustrated waiting to take the goal kick. When he was given the signal to do so he some how kicked his own foot before kicking the ball and it only just got outside the area when Ants strike partner picked it up and fired a shot over the keeper who was trying to get up and into the net.
The last ten minutes was mostly all Kingskerwell as they looked to get a goal back they were reduced to having to shoot from distance more often than not and never really threatened the Ipplepen goal despite some very neat built up play especially down the left hand side.
Ant had one more great chance and a strike that had goal written all over it, but it just got blocked on the line and over for a corner. A goal mouth scramble resulted from the corner with maybe six shots fired at the Kingskerswell goal with each and every one of them getting blocked somehow.
Time to head back to the car and see how our boys had done; well we had to lose sometime didn’t we.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #42 Yesterday at 7:38pm » | |
I have often seen a game of two halves, well this one was a game of one hour and one half-hour, and in the end probably the better team took the three points.
Sadly, the Gulls seemed to find the start of a third away game in seven days a little bit too much for them over the first hour, but by the end it was Southend clinging on for dear life, and based on the last 30 minutes grateful for their result.
Southend absolutely dominated the opening 45 minutes, albeit not really creating all that many chances, two expertly taken goals apart. The first, which I would like to see again on TV, looked to be a beautiful half-volley effort that flew into the top corner of Bevan's net, leaving even the giantest of goalies with no chance at making a save, coming as it did from a corner cleared to the edge of the box with him heading in the wrong direction.
The Shrimpers had all the quality in midfield, with Anthony Grant and Josh Simpson having their way with Wroe and Mansell who were hugely ineffective, although they were not the only ones. Carlisle and Stevens barely touched the ball, and lost it when they did, and the service to Zebroski and Benyon was awful - Zebs did his best to make the best of it, Benyon not so much (and that is being kind - he had a shocker).
Defensively we were fine, although the second goal saw Simpson fire home from (I think) outside the box when he was given far too much time on the ball. Bevan seemed likely to get across and tip it wide but it was a sliced effort that just avoided his outstretched fingers.
Little happened at the Torquay end, apart from a moment of panic in the Southend defence that led to Ellis volleying off the corner of post and bar. Nothing stuck with Benyon and it was just one of those days for him - I was surprised he came out for the second half and more surprised it took so long to get him off for Kee.
Gritton entered the fray at the break and made a difference as he is something Zebs is not - a target man. He was often fouled, although got nothing from the referee, in fact the opposite - he seemed to called up for small incidents never worthy of a free kick.
A change in formation to 3-4-3 really changed things around for the last 30 minutes with Nicholson, easily Torquay's man of the match, playing wide on the left and Carlisle on the right with three centre backs and three up front.
This seemed to panic the Southend defence and Nicholson hit the bar with a deflected effort, Wroe dragged wide when he should have hit the target and Kee mis-directed a header when he was free for an effort on goal.
We pulled one back 12 minutes from time when Gritton's shot hit the post and rebounded for Zebroski to prod home, but despite plenty of pressure and balls lumped into the box, nothing would fall right in the closing minutes and defeat was tasted for the first time in the league this season, the closest chance coming when Morris made an excellent save to turn a Zebroski header around the post. Who knows what would have happened had we played 10 more minutes, but the 100 minute game has yet to be invented!
Nothing really for the team to complain about, apart from the ludicrous incident at the end when a cameraman (Southend I assume) kicked the ball into the empty stand to waste some time, provoking a reaction from Robertson and most notably Branston. The cameraman was rightly told it might be better for him not to walk past the Torquay fans, some of the more amoebic ones calling for him to be publicly flogged with their one combined brain cell, so instead the stewards sent him across the pitch right into the path of Hurricane Guy - the fool is lucky still to be alive and Pickler is lucky that he didn't lamp him!
Mor(e) on the stewards - just why they took umbrage with the Torquay fans standing through the game, that I can understand, as it is part of the ground regulations, but that also applies to the Southend fans as well - if it's good for them to stand then it's good for us, and they should be more welcoming of the money coming into their crumbling stadium, rather than telling people to sit.
All in all, a very average performance, the result was fair based on the whole of the 90 minutes, but there was enough from the final 30 minutes to suggest it might just be a blip rather than the start of a bad run. Southend are not a bad side by any means, and as they continue to gel, they will improve further. Remember most of these players are new to them, just like both of our sides in the Conference days - I'd tab them for the play-offs at least although their fitness was running out by the end of play and we were ripping through them.
No marks out of 10 - not re-visiting last week's combat zone!
Nice to see Rob (Ospelgull) and the rest of the first game of the season Jonahs - we'll probably not be welcomed again this season after watching the first defeat of the league campaign!
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« Result #43 Yesterday at 6:18pm » | |
Yesterday at 5:11pm, warwickgull wrote:| Sounds like their keeper made a great save from Gritton in the last minute. The team have covered a hell of alot of miles for these last 3 away games, great start to the season but obviously not at the races today for most of the match. |
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I worked it out in the week to be at least 1250 miles this week. End of a great run. Well done lads, 12 games unbeaten, 5 successive away wins and one goal against in 12 league games. Everyone connected with the club should be proud of that achievement.
In a way, this defeat should reduce the pressure and spotlight on us. Just a matter of breaking the tightest defense in the league next week now as Accy have conceded only one in 5 league games!! Makes our defense look like a sieve in comparison.
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« Result #44 Yesterday at 6:08pm » | |
On train back to the london so will post report when I get back.
-n short, a bad day at the office.nothing more nothing less and nothing to be too down about
Report and ratings (I'll be using the duckworth lewis method) to follow.
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« Result #45 Yesterday at 6:05pm » | |
Right, I'm off for a pint
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« Result #49 Yesterday at 5:32pm » | |
Not sure when PB's job wil be done, but I'd settle fpr winning promotion at home. Something not many TQY mngers can caim.
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« Result #52 Yesterday at 5:02pm » | |
Formation change should have been made much sooner but 12 points from the first 5 games - that will do me.
I await the match reports with baited breath Shame we can't have an 'I'm Serious' icon.
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« Result #53 Yesterday at 4:58pm » | |
All over and our first loss of the season.
Seems like the game was lost in the first half when we didn't play well at all. The second half we sounded like we upped our game, changing our formation and making a change in personnel.
So the inevitable loss has finally come about - still only one point off the top. It will be interesting to see how we bounce back from this.
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« Result #55 Yesterday at 4:39pm » | |
i cant listen ! am so nervous wroe just missed now ! COYY
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« Result #56 Yesterday at 4:37pm » | |
Get in! Zebs.
Lets get something out of this match now.
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« Result #58 Yesterday at 4:20pm » | |
looks weird looking on sky sports news and seeing that a team has scored 2 against us :L
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« Result #59 Yesterday at 4:11pm » | |
could be in for a real wake up today, sounds terrible!
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« Result #60 Yesterday at 4:07pm » | |
grits on for danny,lil lad was always gonna struggle against one of sturrocks muscular sides
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« Result #61 Yesterday at 4:06pm » | |
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« Result #63 Yesterday at 3:53pm » | |
.....sounds like we're being totally outplayed.
Had a feeling that all the media spotlight this week would have a negative effect......
With this very tough start to the season fixture-wise, a 5th straight win was asking a lot.
Must get O'Kane on and one of Kee or Gritton - plenty of others sound like that they could be joining Danny getting splinters on their arses!
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« Result #64 Yesterday at 3:49pm » | |
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« Result #65 Yesterday at 3:47pm » | |
Struggle to get anything out of this game now. Have we ever managed to beat a Paul Sturrock team in the league?
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« Result #67 Yesterday at 3:46pm » | |
It SOUNDS like Stevens is having an absolute nightmare out there.
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« Result #68 Yesterday at 3:45pm » | |
2-0 FFS!!!!!
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« Result #69 Yesterday at 3:44pm » | |
Uphill struggle with this formation. 
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« Result #70 Yesterday at 3:44pm » | |
O'Kane and Kee on Benyon Stevens off is only way I can see a way forward and oh bugger they got 2 now we knackered.
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« Result #71 Yesterday at 3:34pm » | |
I think Bucks may need to think about a formation change. Not sure if Benyon in the hole is working.
Zebs on the wing to replace Stevens and Gritts on - go 4 4 2
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« Result #72 Yesterday at 3:32pm » | |
Indeed - we are rather under the cosh at the moment.
Stevens, amongst others, not playing well at all.
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« Result #73 Yesterday at 3:30pm » | |
looks like a cagey start :S .. COYY!
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« Result #74 Yesterday at 3:29pm » | |
Looking at the BBC stats, it doesn't look like we've got going at all.
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« Result #75 Yesterday at 3:25pm » | |
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« Result #77 Yesterday at 3:09pm » | |
Glad Corr is out, although I'd be confident that his physical approach would be more than matched by Guy Branston and Mark Ellis.
It might be a surprise to see Sturrock back in the league again, but that performance he gave against Kettering (who featured Guy Branston that day) when we really seemed to click in the promotion season was sublime. He had a couple of yards in his head on the opposition - it was a real shame that he seemed to be carrying an injury (exacerbated away at Histon in the P/O) as I thought that he might have carried-on the momentum into the league.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #78 Yesterday at 3:08pm » | |
Shrewsbury have just taken the lead and we've dropped off the top of the table for the first time this season.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #79 Yesterday at 3:06pm » | |
shrewsbury ahead in the "big game"
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| | Author | Topic: JPT Trophy Draw: Swindon Town (Read 215 times) |
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« Result #80 Yesterday at 2:59pm » | |
You have to say Swindon are not exactly in sparkling form so far this season, which gives reason for optimism. Cant help feeling they will come good once they get their front line sorted with Billy P having moved on. Lets hope it's not till after we play them 
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #81 Yesterday at 2:46pm » | |
full team
Bevan;
Robertson, Ellis, Branston, Nicholson,
Carlisle, Wroe (c), Mansell, Stevens,
Benyon, Zebroski.
Subs: Potter, Charnock, Lathrope, Macklin, O'Kane, Kee, Gritton.
going 0-2 win, zebs and benyon
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| | Author | Topic: Blandness and Misrepresentation (Read 218 times) |
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« Result #82 Yesterday at 2:38pm » | |
Without wishing to sound rude, is there any chance you could have this argument "offline"? It really is continuing to ruin the site, which is exactly what you are trying not to do Dave.
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| | Author | Topic: FL2: Southend v Torquay Utd 4th Sept 2010 (Read 2,641 times) |
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« Result #83 Yesterday at 2:37pm » | |
Corr out for Southend.
Zebs and Benyon up front with Stevens and Carlisle on the wing. Macklin has made it onto the bench in place of LRT.
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Result 84 of 100:
| | Author | Topic: it just gets better (Read 389 times) |
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« Result #84 Yesterday at 2:13pm » | |
so bucks is on the football league show tonight? bit confused here :L
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« Result #86 Yesterday at 1:28pm » | |
It would be nice to see o'kane play for a decent amount of the match instead of the last 5 min, he seems to have a hunger for the goal. I think we could get a result today at the worst a draw, but here's hoping that Mr Buckle doesnt get manager of the month and the curse that goes with it.
I would like to see the team changed slightly so that the oppsing managers dont get to good an idea of how we play and start to counter it.
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« Result #87 Yesterday at 1:23pm » | |
Hopefully this will produce some extra footfalls through the turnstiles next weekend, as long as they dont stand in my spot.
p.s. Front row half way line plopside.
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« Result #89 Yesterday at 12:46pm » | |
I seriously think we can get something from this game. We are certainly more than capable of winning, however I would be happy to take a point.
One thing that does worry me very slightly me is the unusual (for us anyway) amount of focus on us from the media. A slot on last nights football league show. A feature on tonights football league show. I'm not saying I'm not enjoying the spotlight on us but 'Pride before a fall' ?? I sincerely hope not.
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« Result #91 Yesterday at 12:38pm » | |
I hope we can continue the good work today with another 3 points. From taking a glance at the Shrimpers forum most of them feel their forwards are as deadly as a blunt carrott, lets hope that is the case today, another solid defensive performance from us and couple of goals will do nicely.
Now im not bleeting or moaning but im sure I will get slagged off, and yes I do realise we have won 4 in 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we are going to change into a 5 in midfield after going a goal or 2 up away from home, I would like to see someone else given a go as the lone ranger up front rather than Benyon. Not that I dont want Benyon on the pitch but to me he is the most unsuitable forward we have to fit that particular bill.
Surely Gritton or Zeb tick every box for the roll with maybe Elliott just behind and joining from midfield or wide when we are on the break. Surely that roll would suit Elliott more so he can show his industrious running and chasing down. The ball isn't sticking or being held up well enough in my view, not that thats Benyons fault its just not the strongest part of his game, we give away possesion to easily then face attack after attack from the oposition and envite the pressure. Yes we have got away with it so far, but for how long?
Well only my opinion, a winning side is not beyond tinkering and slight tactical changes, and its an obvious one for me. Fingers crossed for 5 in 5
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| | Author | Announcement: Season One - Week Five - 4 Sept (Southend) (Read 176 times) |
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« Result #93 Yesterday at 12:34pm » | |
Accrington Stanley 1-2 Wycombe
Aldershot 2-1 Northampton
Barnet 1-3 Cheltenham
Bradford 1-1 Port Vale
Burton Albion 3-1 Hereford
Bury 2-1 Gillingham
Chesterfield 3-1 Lincoln City
Macclesfield 2-2v Stockport
Oxford Utd 3-0 Morecambe
Shrewsbury 1-2 Rotherham
Southend 1-2 Torquay
Stevenage 2-2 Crewe
Torquays First Goal Scorer: Wroe
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« Result #96 Yesterday at 11:57am » | |
I AM POSTING THESE FOR leedsgull22 AS HE DOES NOT HAVE PC ACCESS THIS WEEK!!
Accrington Stanley 1 v 1 Wycombe
Aldershot 1 v 0 Northampton
Barnet 0 v 2 Cheltenham
Bradford 1 v 2 Port Vale
Burton Albion 2 v 1 Hereford
Bury 1 v 1 Gillingham
Chesterfield 2 v 0 Lincoln City
Macclesfield 1 v 1 Stockport
Oxford Utd 1 v 1 Morecambe
Shrewsbury 1 v 2 Rotherham
Southend 0 v 1 Torquay
Stevenage 1 v 2 Crewe
Torquays First Goal Scorer: Mansell
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« Result #97 Yesterday at 11:42am » | |
Accrington Stanley 1 v 1 Wycombe
Aldershot 1 v 1 Northampton
Barnet 2 v 3 Cheltenham
Bradford 1 v 2 Port Vale
Burton Albion 3 v 1 Hereford
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