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Uni dissertation « Thread Started on Jul 29, 2010, 2:24pm »
Hi everyone,
im currently doing my university research dissertation on the issue of racism in british football and am looking for football fans across the south west to fill in my questionnaire to help with my research. It will only take a couple of minutes to do.
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Re: Uni dissertation « Reply #3 on Jul 29, 2010, 10:09pm »
completed my survey but was forced to put south west because there was no option of wales, scotland or northern ireland even though the question states Britain not England as your location.
completed my survey but was forced to put south west because there was no option of wales, scotland or northern ireland even though the question states Britain not England as your location.
Taffs & Jocks could get upset at being overlooked but Northern Ireland is not part of Britain
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Re: Uni dissertation « Reply #5 on Jul 30, 2010, 11:20am »
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and something that the majority of its population are very proud of. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is often shortened to either Britain or UK.
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and something that the majority of its population are very proud of. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is often shortened to either Britain or UK.
Very true but not a massive majority. About 40 per cent identify more with Ireland than Great Britain and the gap is closing as back in the early days of 'the troubles' that was only about 33 per cent. The majority would actually be the other way around if back in 1921 the whole of the nine counties of Ulster had been incorporated into the new Northern Ireland, rather than just six counties.
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and something that the majority of its population are very proud of. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is often shortened to either Britain or UK.
Very true but not a massive majority. About 40 per cent identify more with Ireland than Great Britain and the gap is closing as back in the early days of 'the troubles' that was only about 33 per cent. The majority would actually be the other way around if back in 1921 the whole of the nine counties of Ulster had been incorporated into the new Northern Ireland, rather than just six counties.
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Re: Uni dissertation « Reply #9 on Jul 31, 2010, 11:27am »
Great Britain is the major land mass that encompasses the mainlands of the countries of England, Scotland and Wales.
The British Isles are all the many islands (over a thousand in total) which make up the archipelago including: Great Britain, Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man ~ the latter two are self governing under the monarchy and therefore are not part of the United Kingdom.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ~ or UK; includes three separate nations (England, Scotland and Wales) two of which have their own parliament (Scotland) or national assembly (Wales) whilst England is governed by the British Parliament.
The Republic of Ireland (although part of the British Isles) is a self governing nation without a monarchy but a presidency.
Contrary to popular belief Ulster is not wholly in Northern Ireland.....................Northern Ireland consists of the six counties that remained within the United Kingdom on formation of the Republic of Ireland in 1921. Therefore what had been The Province of Ulster saw Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan become part of the Republic and Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry and Tyrone stay within the Union (from which the popular terms "Unionists" is derived) of the United Kingdom.
Complicated? Not really, it's only certain people that choose to make it so.
. Contrary to popular belief Ulster is not wholly in Northern Ireland.....................Northern Ireland consists of the six counties that remained within the United Kingdom on formation of the Republic of Ireland in 1921. Therefore what had been The Province of Ulster saw Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan become part of the Republic and Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry and Tyrone stay within the Union (from which the popular terms "Unionists" is derived) of the United Kingdom.
....and geographically the most northerly part of the island of Ireland is County Donegal which is in the Republic of Ireland and not Northern Ireland.
Great Britain is the major land mass that encompasses the mainlands of the countries of England, Scotland and Wales.
The British Isles are all the many islands (over a thousand in total) which make up the archipelago including: Great Britain, Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man ~ the latter two are self governing under the monarchy and therefore are not part of the United Kingdom.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ~ or UK; includes three separate nations (England, Scotland and Wales) two of which have their own parliament (Scotland) or national assembly (Wales) whilst England is governed by the British Parliament.
The Republic of Ireland (although part of the British Isles) is a self governing nation without a monarchy but a presidency.
Contrary to popular belief Ulster is not wholly in Northern Ireland.....................Northern Ireland consists of the six counties that remained within the United Kingdom on formation of the Republic of Ireland in 1921. Therefore what had been The Province of Ulster saw Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan become part of the Republic and Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry and Tyrone stay within the Union (from which the popular terms "Unionists" is derived) of the United Kingdom.
Complicated? Not really, it's only certain people that choose to make it so.
Hmmm, it is a complicated one though Merse - according to the British Nationality Act 1981 the United Kingdom means: Great Britain, Northern Island and the islands. "The islands" means The Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. However, under the interpretation Act 1978, the Channel Islands were deemed to be a part of the British Isles.
We (the Channel Islands) are British Crown Dependencies, and have been part of the Duchy of Normandy since the 10th century, and when toasting the Queen refer to her as "The Queen, our Duke" as opposed to "Her Majesty, the Queen".
Great Britain is the major land mass that encompasses the mainlands of the countries of England, Scotland and Wales.
The British Isles are all the many islands (over a thousand in total) which make up the archipelago including: Great Britain, Ireland, The Channel Islands and The Isle of Man ~ the latter two are self governing under the monarchy and therefore are not part of the United Kingdom.
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland ~ or UK; includes three separate nations (England, Scotland and Wales) two of which have their own parliament (Scotland) or national assembly (Wales) whilst England is governed by the British Parliament.
The Republic of Ireland (although part of the British Isles) is a self governing nation without a monarchy but a presidency.
Contrary to popular belief Ulster is not wholly in Northern Ireland.....................Northern Ireland consists of the six counties that remained within the United Kingdom on formation of the Republic of Ireland in 1921. Therefore what had been The Province of Ulster saw Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan become part of the Republic and Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry and Tyrone stay within the Union (from which the popular terms "Unionists" is derived) of the United Kingdom.
Complicated? Not really, it's only certain people that choose to make it so.
Hmmm, it is a complicated one though Merse - according to the British Nationality Act 1981 the United Kingdom means: Great Britain, Northern Island and the islands. "The islands" means The Channel Islands and the Isle of Man. However, under the interpretation Act 1978, the Channel Islands were deemed to be a part of the British Isles.
We (the Channel Islands) are British Crown Dependencies, and have been part of the Duchy of Normandy since the 10th century, and when toasting the Queen refer to her as "The Queen, our Duke" as opposed to "Her Majesty, the Queen".
Who really cares about the Channel Islands though Scott? Too far away, give it to the French and be done with it!
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and something that the majority of its population are very proud of. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is often shortened to either Britain or UK.
Keyberry, as you yourself quite patently pointed out, Northern Ireland is not part of Britain. It is part of the UK. I certainly never heard any of the locals out there describe themselves as British during two stints over there. They are usually quite pedantic about that sort of thing...
Hence my reply to StuB's assertion that Britain covered Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland.
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