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After TUFC were relegated in 1972, the club came under tremendous financial pressure which led to some swingeing cutbacks early in 1973 including the sacking of the unsackable Don Mills. The reserve team, which had been playing in the Western League, was scrapped at the end of the 1972/73 season.
The plan was to run a side featuring fringe players, trialists and local amateurs in the midweek Western Counties Floodlit League, but the power crisis led to a floodlight ban which meant that we only played three fixtures. A full schedule was completed in 1974/75, but there was no reserve football at all in 1975/76.
In 1976, the Western League created a second division and TUFC entered a youngish side in this for six seasons 1976-82, before the reserves were again scrapped due to another financial crisis.
Dave Webb re-introduced reserve football in 1985, playing both in the South-Western League and in the Macbar Midweek League (later sponsored by Capital Finance & Leasing and Clifton Stockbrokers). TUFC withdrew from the SWL after three seasons, leaving only midweek reserve football in 1988/89.
In 1989, the reserves joined the Western League Combination in addition to the midweek league – this league featured the reserve teams of Western League clubs and wasn’t really strong enough to test our reserves. In 1990, we rejoined the second tier of the Western League proper. After two years, we were promoted to the Premier division of the Western League for the 1992/93 season, but then withdrew from the Western League altogether in 1993.
We remained in the midweek league throughout this time and in 1992 the league was absorbed into the Football Combination – effectively becoming its second division. We played in the Combination for four years before quitting in 1996.
Reserve football had been kept going in the mid-nineties, despite financial pressures, by the creation of a “Reserve Board” which I believe featured two of our current directors – Brian Palk and Alex Rowe.
For two years from 1996 to 1998, there was no competitive reserve football, but the Football Combination Division 2 was re-entered for the 1998-99 season. At the end of that season, the Combination scrapped its second tier, casting its South West teams adrift.
There was no competitive reserve football for another two seasons until an attempt was made to form a South West Reserve League for the 2001/02, but this lasted just one season and only featured four clubs. There has been no competitive reserve football from 2002 until now.
When I say “no competitive reserve football”, I am not counting the Devon St Luke’s Bowl. This competition started in 1997/98 – merging the Devon Pro Bowl and the St Luke’s Cup (previously competed for by Devon-based Western League teams). Although not officially reserve teams, the teams TUFC has fielded in this cup have largely been of a reserve team standard.
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Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,225 Karma: 0 |  | Re: History of TUFC Reserves - part two « Reply #1 on May 28, 2010, 7:40pm » | |
May 26, 2010, 11:31pm, Jon wrote:| There was no competitive reserve football for another two seasons until an attempt was made to form a South West Reserve League for the 2001/02, but this lasted just one season and only featured four clubs. There has been no competitive reserve football from 2002 until now. |
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I saw one of our games in that league at Taunton Town. I think Sean Hankin and Gary Brabin made their club debuts in the match and Darren Bastow put in his only Taunton appearance.
Would be interesting to see a list of all of our reserve opponents right through from those Southern League trips to Kent and East Anglia to the likes of Bugle, Helston and Teignmouth.
Part one of Jon's histroy would have mentioned the spell in the South Western League in the 1950s. I saw something recently about no Devon team winning the SW League - or the SW Peninsula League - between Torquay United Reserves in 1953 and Buckland Athletic in 2010.
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May 28, 2010, 7:40pm, Barton Downs wrote:| Would be interesting to see a list of all of our reserve opponents right through from those Southern League trips to Kent and East Anglia to the likes of Bugle, Helston and Teignmouth. |
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A few here, off the top of my head:
Aberdare & Aberaman Aldershot Res. Andover Appledore Arsenal Res. Ashtonians United Avon Bradford Backwell United Barnstaple Res. Barnstaple Town Barry Bath City Bath City Res. Bedford Town Bideford Bideford Res. Birmingham City Res. Bishop Sutton Bodmin Bournemouth Res. Bovey St Johns Bridgwater Town Bridport Bridport Res. Brislington Bristol City Colts Bristol City Res. Bristol Manor Farm Bristol Rovers Colts Bristol Rovers Res. Brixham United Bugle Calne Town Cardiff City Res. Chard Res. Chard Town Chelmsford City Cheltenham Town Cheltenham Town Res. Chingford Town Chippenham Town Chippenham Town Res. Chippenham United Cinderford Town Civil Service (Plymouth) Clandown Clevedon Clyst Rovers CM Dept. Colchester United Crediton United Crownhill Dartford Dartmouth Dawlish Res. Dawlish Town Devizes Town Dorchester Town Ebbw Vale Elmore Elmore Res. EM Dept. Exeter City Res. Exmouth Res. Exmouth Town Falmouth Folkestone Friernhay Frome Town Frome Town Res. Gillingham Glastonbury Gloucester City Gloucester City Res. Gravesend & Northfleet Green Waves Guildford City Hastings United Headington United Heavitree Res. Heavitree United Helston Hereford United Hereford United Res. Hoffman Athletic Holsworthy Ilfracombe Res. Ilfracombe Town Ilminster Town Ipswich Town Ipswich Town Res. Kettering Town Keynsham Town Kidderminster Harriers Larkhall Athletic Launceston Liskeard Athletic Llanelly Looe Lovell's Athletic Mangotsfield United Margate Melksham Town Merthyr Town Merthyr Town Res. Merthyr Tydfil Merthyr Tydfil Res. Mid Rhondda United Millbrook Minehead Minehead Res. Newport County Newport County Res. Newquay Newton Abbot (Dynamoes) Newton Abbot (Spurs) Newton GWR Newton Town Norwich City Res. Oak Villa Odd Down Oreston Rovers Ottery St.Mary Paulton Rovers Peasedown MW Penryn Penzance Plymouth Argyle A Plymouth Argyle Colts Plymouth Argyle Res. Plymouth City Plymouth United Plymouth&Stonehouse Gas Co. Plympton Poole Town Poole Town Res. Portland United Portway-Bristol Radstock Town RFA (Exeter) RMLI RN Barracks RN Torpedo Depot Royal Marines Salisbury Salisbury City Saltash Shepton Mallet Town Shrewsbury Res. South Molton South Staffords Regt. St Austell St Blazey St Michaels (Plymouth) St Thomas (Plymouth) St.Luke's College Stonehouse Street Swanage Town & Herston Swansea City Res. Swindon Town Res. Taunton Taunton Res. Taunton Town Tavistock Team Bath Res. Teignmouth Tiverton Res. Tiverton Town Tonbridge Topsham Torpoint Torrington Torrington Res. Trowbridge Town Trowbridge Town Res. Truro Tunbridge Wells Rangers United Services Wadebridge Warminster Town Wellington FC Wellington Res. Wells City Welton Rovers Westbury United Westland-Yeovil Weston-super-Mare Weymouth Weymouth Res. Wimborne Town Woodland Villa Worcester City Yeovil Yeovil Res.
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Joined: Aug 2009 Gender: Male  Posts: 529 Location: Ivybridge Karma: 0 |  | Re: History of TUFC Reserves - part two « Reply #3 on May 29, 2010, 5:47pm » | |
Hell Jon that's a damned impressive list off the top of your head! My recall is sketchy at the best of times but I do wish that what I recall came out in alphabetical order like yours! Anyway I couldn't think of a single addition to the list. I thought first about the obscure ones ... then checked and they were there!!
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Joined: Jul 2008 Gender: Male  Posts: 1,738 Karma: 0 |  | Re: History of TUFC Reserves - part two « Reply #4 on May 29, 2010, 8:19pm » | |
May 29, 2010, 5:47pm, stefano wrote:Hell Jon that's a damned impressive list off the top of your head! My recall is sketchy at the best of times but I do wish that what I recall came out in alphabetical order like yours! Anyway I couldn't think of a single addition to the list. I thought first about the obscure ones ... then checked and they were there!! |
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I thought accountants did things numerically
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Joined: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,225 Karma: 0 |  | Re: History of TUFC Reserves - part two « Reply #5 on May 29, 2010, 9:58pm » | |
May 29, 2010, 5:31pm, Jon wrote:
A few here, off the top of my head:
Aberdare & Aberaman Aldershot Res. Andover Appledore
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I hope that's one Jon prepared earlier before the show. Otherwise I'm feeling guilty about taking so much of his Saturday.
A mightily impressive list, sir. I hadn't realised we gone as far north as Birmingham City Reserves. My guess is it must be one of the most diverse lists of any Football League club (along with Exeter City).
One or two new opponents next season - all being well - although there must be some doubts about the planned participation of Salisbury and Forest Green (one or the other but probably not both?).
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Joined: Apr 2010 Gender: Male  Posts: 4 Karma: 0 |  | Re: History of TUFC Reserves - part two « Reply #6 on Aug 1, 2010, 6:39am » | |
Note this History of the Reserves - part two. Where can I find part one?
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Aug 1, 2010, 6:39am, powles1 wrote:| Note this History of the Reserves - part two. Where can I find part one? |
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Hi powles1 nice to see you posting on the TFF, I have looked at all the threads on this board and can't find a part one, I'm sure Jon will explain when he is next on why he called this thread part two
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Aug 1, 2010, 6:39am, powles1 wrote:| Note this History of the Reserves - part two. Where can I find part one? |
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It's here :
http://torquayfansforum.com/index.cgi?ac....ory&thread=5962
I was going to do the whole lot in one, but thought it was too lengthy. I did part two first as someone had asked the question when we had last played competitive reserve football, so I picked up from 1973. I hadn't got round to doing the first part - and I don't think anyone had missed it until you asked!
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